even if they pose no immediate threat of attack in russia. how did state department treat this project with its human rights compliance? >> thank you. in fact, as i alluded to in my opening remarks and at greater length, and my testimony, it is a real problem where the state department spokesman is going to have to stand up after russia and china has used the drone against a dissident in a country in the state department will have to explain why that was and that it extremely important for our government and the executive branch to lay down is precisely clear rules for the use of drones. >> wouldn't it be the case that china or someone, the we would condemn that out of hand? that we wouldn't say that this one is okay, that one wasn't? >> if they were being attacked -- >> we are judging the impact at one point. >> is somewhere posing imminent threats to russia in the country they were in was unwilling or unable to prevent that threat, i think we would have to acknowledge the right to defend. >> something that john bellinger said. you need to p